现在国模编程第一是谁？
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<ol class="cdx-list-ordered" style="list-style-type:none; margin-left: -15px;"><li class="cdx-list__item">1. DS V4.1</li><li class="cdx-list__item">2. Kimi 3.1 Pro</li><li class="cdx-list__item">3. Qwen 3.8 max</li></ol>
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</style> 我感觉是 GLM 我觉得大概是
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devin 的 swe2 (基于 k3 训练)
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qwen GLM 的问题是除了编程，其它的很差；编的文档不是人话，但是看在他网页版输出文档的份上，确实膜拜。
国模感觉画图都有点问题，字与图会重叠。 DS V4.1 太便宜了，而且我都是输出一些前端交互页面，写的飞快，舍得蹬 GLM 和 DS 都好用，编程优先 GLM 感觉 deepseek-v4.1-flash-1017 比 GLM 5.3 强一些，但实际上又没 GLM 5.3 稳当
Kimi 3.1 目前可能是最强的，但是其超大参数导致价格也很高，入不了主流 Deepseek-v4.1-flash 我觉得就不错，我用过 kimi 3,但是 token 消耗太狠了，现在我主力还是 deepseek
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